Adam and Eve

There were two trees in the Garden of Eden, According to one website, and only one was actually said to be in the center, "The Tree of Life".


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both trees were in the midst of the Garden.
2: Comparing Genesis 2:9 with Genesis 3:3, you can see that the Tree of Life and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil were both in the midst of the Garden.



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Where is eden?
A river began in Eden, and it went out of Eden. In other words, what I am telling you is that it just came right up out of the ground, and then left Eden.

in the book of Ezekiel there is a river that is going to come out from under the throne of God. It is going to come right out of the ground, and it is going to leave there, and it too is going to divide into four different directions.

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The same is true for Revelation 22.

Because that river represents God's Holy Spirit!

Ezekiel 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.

Ezekiel 47:8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.



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The river that flowed out of Eden flowed to the east, and this river too flows to the east. What I want you to see here is that God never changes. In the patterns, in the instructions, He follows through with things consistently like this so that we will never get shook up.

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4: The next thing I want us to notice from Genesis 2:8 is that the Garden was not Eden itself. The Garden was eastward in Eden; therefore, Eden is one of the names the Bible provides for the whole general area. The Garden was in a specific area in the eastern part of Eden.



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The word "Eden" means "delight." It was a delight to Him. He was happy when He made it.

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It was a garden of delight.

Most theologians identify the location of Eden as being in Mesopotamia, believe it or not, in the Tigris/Euphrates valley. They do this because the earliest-known advanced civilization that bequeathed the world's records of its existence was the Sumerians civilization that indeed was located in Tigris/Euphrates valley.



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The river went east, and when adam and eve left eden they also went east.

The Cheribum was placed at the east. It is assumed that there were no cheribum on the other directions, because there was no way into the garden from those directions. There was one way in, and one way out.

ONE WAY, just like Jesus is the ONE WAY TO GOD! To get to God, you had to travel WEST from the EAST. When god scattered the israelites, and took the Word of God with them they went WEST, NORTHWEST.

When Cain and Abel brought their offering, their must have been an alter and since there was no access to the Garden of Eden, there must have been an alter outside of Eden...

Genesis 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.



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Cain also headed East.

One thing we know here is that Cain and Abel did not move in the direction of God. They did not head west. They went to the east. Cain turned his back on God, and he followed the water wherever it went.



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Now Cain was the real progenitor of Babylon. We are going to go to the book of Revelation to pick up a couple of verses in chapter 17 just to identify this positively.

Revelation 17:4-5 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Where was Babylon? It was east of Eden.



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Genesis 11:1-2 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. (emphasis ours)



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Genesis 8:4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

Where are the mountains of Ararat? They are in eastern Turkey. Now where is Turkey located in relation to Jerusalem and in relation to the Tigris/Euphrates valley? The mountains of Ararat are directly north of Jerusalem.



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These directions are important, because in the early chapters of Genesis, Eden (and most specifically the Garden of Eden) is considered the dwelling place of God. It was His home on earth. The Bible says that He walked in the Garden. In a sense, if we are thinking of this in human terms, that is where He lived when He was on earth. It was His home on earth, and later, when the Tabernacle and the Temple were constructed, the Holy of Holies was considered God's dwelling place.

I am going to show you a couple of verses that will confirm what I just said. Turn to Isaiah 51:3. This is immediately after that scripture in Isaiah 51 where God says, "Look unto Abraham," and this is going to tie Abraham and Eden together with God.

Isaiah 51:3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.



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Ezekiel 28:13 You have been in Eden the garden of God.



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This is speaking of Satan. Satan was there. We know he was there because that is where he confronted Adam and Eve.

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Regarding directions in scripture, it is a general rule, unless a context specifically gives reasons why, that all directions are from Jerusalem.

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Of course that is a strong indication of where Eden was located. We are able to pinpoint it in the scriptures as to exactly where it was. This direction pattern directs one as though Jerusalem is in the center of all nations, and all other nations revolve around it.

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In Genesis 10:25 it tells us that in the days of Peleg the earth was divided. There are pretty good indications that at the time of the beginning, of Adam and Eve, all the continents of the world were one big circle around Jerusalem, but in the days of Peleg God moved everything into their present locations. That thought continues all the way through.



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Jerusalem indeed is the center of nations. That is where God the Creator lived, and everything revolved around Him, and because everything revolved around the Creator, and He lived in that area, therefore all directions are from Him. So when you see north, it is north of Jerusalem. When you see east, it is east of Jerusalem, and west and south, and so forth.



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Rebellious sinning people like Cain and the children of most of the families descended from Noah are moving away from Eden, and thus away from God and His dwelling place. God is thus showing us that the place considered by men as being the point of origin of man's civilization—Mesopotamia—is indeed the home of Babylon on the Euphrates, and of Nineveh on the Tigris River. Both are on the plain of Shinar, and both settled by those defiant toward God at the very beginning of things.

Psalm 48:1-2 Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, [the subject is Jerusalem], in the mountain of his holiness. Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, in the sides of the north, the city of the great King.



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That Garden was located in a portion of what later became known as Jerusalem—the City of Peace—not Babylon, the city of tumultuous anti-God confusion where the rebels all settled.

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it is interesting to note that once the survivors of the Flood and their families moved from Ararat and were settled once again in the area of Babylon, the people continued to do the same things that they had done before the Flood.

After the Flood though, the vast majority migrated toward Shinar. However, some of Noah's descendants attempted to get back into Eden and the Garden area from which their ancestors were expelled. I want you to understand that by this time it is after the Flood and Eden no longer existed. The Flood washed it away, but still the people had records. They knew where it was, and some of the people tried to get back. We are going to turn to Genesis 10, verse 18, and we will find out who it was.

Genesis 10:18-20 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. And the border of the Canaanaites was from Sidon, as you come to Gerar, unto Gaza; as you go unto Sodom and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. These are the sons of Ham and their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.



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This is what I think took place. The family of Ham, specifically the descendants of Canaan, migrated first of all with the people who went into the plain of Shinar, and then after they settled there a bit they then went to the area of what we know now as Israel. In this period of time we are talking about nine generations. It was not like things were just happening like this. It took a while for this to take place.

I am not saying that it was the ninth generation that they finally reached back to Jerusalem. It was not. Where I got this figure from was from Abraham. Abraham was the ninth generation from Shem. Abraham was a contemporary of Shem. Shem lived 450 years after the Flood. So in a small portion of those 450 years Abraham was born, and for a number of those 450 years Abraham was contemporary with Shem.

Genesis 12:6 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.

The Canaanites were already in the land by the time Abraham got there. I want you to see that God brought His called-out one Abraham from Babylon (a type of the world) and later Abraham's descendants—Israel—from Egypt (a type of sin) to this same land that He was eventually going to give to all His called-out ones as their inheritance—the land of Eden. Do you see how everything eventually comes full circle?



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Now from Genesis 12 on, except for brief prophetic trips into other geographic areas, the entire Bible history focuses on this land, and most specifically on a particular area of this land—Jerusalem—and thus there is no way the Bible can be used to support Mesopotamia as being the starting point and focus of man's history. Rather, the Bible shows God beginning His entire program in one specific location, unfolding the progress of one family—the family of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob—from their physical beginnings through their spiritual conversion.

The story includes the Savior who was born to one of those families—the family of Judah. He is crucified, but is resurrected, and departs to heaven from where? From the Mount of Olives, as it says in Acts 1:9-12. And when He returns to earth, where are His feet going to touch down? Zechariah 14:4 establishes that His feet will touch down on the same Mount of Olives, and from there He will begin His Kingdom, centering on the same location where the entire many millennia-long program began.



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In Genesis 2, verses 10 and 13, it speaks about the names of the rivers that flowed out from the river that flowed out of Eden. There is one specific one—the Gihon. Researchers tend to believe that this Gihon is the well-known Nile River because of the mention of Ethiopia. That may be possible, but also remember that the Flood vastly changed some geographical configurations. However, this place-name turns up in an interesting way.

I Kings 1:32 And king David said, Call me Zadok the priest, and Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada. And they came before the king.

David is dying at this point. His reign is just about over, and there was trouble brewing.

I Kings 1:33-34 The king also said unto them, Take with you the servants of your lord, and cause Solomon my son to ride upon my own mule, and bring him down to Gihon. [The place-name Gihon was still in Jerusalem in David's day.] And let Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anoint him there king over Israel: and blow you with the trumpet, and say, God save king Solomon.

So in David's day, about 3,000 years after the events of Genesis 2 and 3, the place-name Gihon still existed in Jerusalem, and perhaps God has supplied us with some further evidence as to the location of Eden and its Garden.



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Now interestingly, the margin in my study Bible has a notation saying that Gihon was located just east of Jerusalem.

II Chronicles 32:27, 29-30 And Hezekiah had exceeding much riches and honor: and he made himself treasuries for silver, and for gold, and for precious stones, and for spices, and for shields, and for all manner of pleasant jewels. . . .Moreover he provided him cities and possessions of flocks and herds in abundance: for God had given him substance very much. This same Hezekiah also stopped [dammed up] the upper watercourse of Gihon, and brought it straight down to the west side of the city of David. And Hezekiah prospered in all his works.

The Gihon area contained a spring that put forth apparently an abundant supply of water. Hezekiah's engineers tapped into it, redirecting its flow by means of a tunnel that they dug under the city from its east to the west side of the city.



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In Old Testament times it provided a substantial supply of water to the city, and this particular water source must also have been considered unique because it was the place where Solomon was anointed, and because the water from this spring was mixed with the ashes of the Red Heifer to produce the waters of purification."

Jerusalem must have had a fairly abundant supply of water because of the various washings required of the priests, as well as the sacrifices themselves, which required a great deal of water each and every day. The sacrifices were required to be washed with running water, not still nor stagnant, so there must have been a consistent strong flow of water. Furthermore, the Gihon water course had the pool of Siloam in which Jesus, in John 9, told the man He healed of blindness to go wash. Why that particular pool? Did it have something to do with Gihon? Maybe.



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Let us go to Zechariah 14:8-9. This is a parallel of Ezekiel 47 and 48 about the river.

Zechariah 14:8-9 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea; in summer and in winter shall it be. And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and His name one



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When God began His spiritual creation in earnest, He called Abraham out of Babylon and sent him into what became known as the Promised Land. It was the very land that Adam and Eve had been placed in, and in which Jesus Christ was born, ministered in, and will return to. We are going to begin in Joshua 24.



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When God began His spiritual creation in earnest, He called Abraham out of Babylon and sent him into what became known as the Promised Land. It was the very land that Adam and Eve had been placed in, and in which Jesus Christ was born, ministered in, and will return to. We are going to begin in Joshua 24.



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http://www.abeautifuldifference.com/webdoc1.3.html
http://godspurposes.org/GG%20Web/GG%201.html
http://alexander-johnson.suite101.com/truth-lies-and-knowledge-in-the-garden-of-eden-a298435
http://murraycreek.net/return/book1/returngarden1.htm
http://www.swedenborgdigitallibrary.org/sower/gen/gen3.htm
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The Tree of Life

gave immortality.


"The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil"
God told Adam not to eat of that tree or he would surley die.

We all know that Adam and Eve at that "fruit" and we know that they did not die for quite some time after. So, what did God mean. We all know that God is not a liar.

This website adds some extra information that makes some common sense. It says that they changed their current state of existence. Prior to partaking of the tree, they existed in the spiritual realm of immortality. Their death was spiritual, they were now mortal and would physically die.

Why was it so important that it was pointed out over and over that Adam and Eve were naked. They started out naked but not ashamed, and they ended up naked but ashamed, so God covered their shame.

Their eyes were now opened to the physical world, their realization of nakedness was a facet of that.

But what about the Tree of Life? God said that HE could not let Adam and Eve eat from that tree, or they would regain their immortality. A Cheribum guarded the way to the Garden of Eden and the Tree of Life.

The Cherubim, according to Ezekiel, was the highest of the angelic realm (Ezekiel 1:4-28; 10:1-22).
Hebrews 9:4, Cheribums also covered the mercy seat. over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercy seat;

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In Revelation 22:2 it is this same Tree of Life that stands on each side of the River of the Water of Life, which flows through the New Jerusalem, established when the Messiah comes again. The tree is said to bear "twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations". God intended to bring forth healing and life to Adam and Eve through this Tree of Life. When His kingdom is established on earth, its leaves will bring healing and life to the nations.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_the_knowledge_of_good_and_evil

Within the three branches from Abraham (Jewish, Christian, and Islam), and even moreso in the world, there are dicussions about this Garden and these Trees. In Islam, they never name it, but always refer to it as "the tree". A close scenario was found in Sumerian Seals, and a review of the Garden of the Hesperides in Greek mythology.


http://gardenofeaden.blogspot.com/2008/12/plants-and-fruit-trees-of-garden-of.html
According to this website, the clues in the bible locate the garden of eden somewhere around the Persian Gulf.


http://www.israel-a-history-of.com/biblical-garden-of-eden.html

This website points to the location and a discussion of the 4 waterways surrounding eden.

In Genesis 3:5 the serpent tells Eve that by eating from the tree their "eyes will be opened, and you will be like God".
In Genesis 3:22 man is said by God to have become "like one of us, knowing good and evil". Interestingly, it is the knowledge of the difference between good and evil that makes man like God.


http://www.gotquestions.org/tree-knowledge-good-evil.html

God put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil in the garden to give Adam and Eve free will.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brook-wilenskylanford/apples-and-the-garden-of-eden_b_972550.html

Why the forbidden fruit became an apple is unknown. Apples really did not grow in the area where the Garden of Eden was located.

http://www.talkjesus.com/bible-study-hall/35014-were-adam-eve-meant-live-garden-eden.html
2.) Eden, in Hebrew means Paradise
"You were in Eden, the garden of God..." Ezekiel 28:13

If there is an actual Name for the Garden we dont know it.

"And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Luke 23:14

I beleive The Garden is where the spirit waits untill the end. Thats just me though....Like the waitng room of the Chosen...Not anything i would make a doctrine on...just a thought...


http://www.seekerstrove.com/eden.htm
The bible is alive. It has multiple meanings, and you get something different from it each time. However, the overall truth is still the same. There is a spiritual truth to everything also, and underlying meaning.

http://minglecity.com/group/christians/forum/topics/what-was-the-forbidden-fruit?xg_source=activity

We were created to live forever. Though sin entered the world through the Fall of ADAM, bringing spiritual death (separation from God) and physical death (bodily), our spirit man (on the inside of us) never dies, which is why we have to make a choice for our eternity (Heaven/Jesus or or Hell/Satan).



The forbidden fruit served as a test of Adam and Eve’s willingness to live within God’s will. Obedience demands the equal possibility of disobedience, hence volition or free will. One cannot exist without the other. In particular, obedience to God cannot exist until what He wants from us is contrary to what we want for ourselves.



The forbidden fruit meant that God expected humanity to live without the knowledge of good and evil. Adam didn’t need such knowledge to live eternally, but only to obey God. Continuing to eat from the tree of life would have extended his life increasing the awareness of righteousness and the virtue of obedience.

God forbade Adam to eat fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. We cannot have God’s knowledge of good and evil. He knows the difference and can never be tempted by evil. “ And remember, no one who wants to do wrong should ever say, "God is tempting me." God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else either” (James 1:13).

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/garden-of-eden-and-the-trees-of-lebanon/
Here is something interesting. God uses Trees to symbolize people.

(7) EZEKIEL 31:9
I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him.

(8) EZEKIEL 31:18
To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden?

Yet shall thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts of the earth: thou shall lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword.


This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, says the Lord GOD.

Here Ezekiel is speaking to Pharaoh, king of Egypt and his multitude. Now note, where are these trees?

In Eden! Even Pharaoh’s ancestors!

So now we know that there were more people in Eden, Adam and Eve were not alone. There is a deeper meaning present.

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Let me share a symbolic fruit of a nation with you.

SONG OF SONGS 2:3
As the apple tree among the trees of the wood, so is my beloved among the sons. I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.

Out of all the trees God created, he refers to His beloved as the apple tree. We know that Judah is the most beloved tribe of God’s.

God uses Zion and Jerusalem as other descriptive words for Judah. (Refer to 2 Kings 19:21 and Psalms 147:12 amongst others) The book of lamentations is solely dedicated to the love God has for Judah and His pain at her downfall.

In the passage below God makes a direct correlation between an apple tree and the people of Judah.

LAMENTATIONS 2:18
Their heart cried unto the Lord, O wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night: give thyself no rest; let not the apple of your eye cease.

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Where does Judah lie ?

Isaiah 18:1
Woe to the land shadowing with wings, which is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia…7 to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion.

For those that have ears let them hear.

The vineyard is God’s garden and the grapes His beloved, and above all His obedient beloved. And so we can go on and on, uncovering the symbolic meanings of fruit for different nations.

So now we can clearly understand the symbolism of fruit being children or offspring and the trees the nations.

Thank you Lord, that if we seek we will find and nothing will be hid from us. It will be revealed to us by the Blessed and loving Holy Spirit. Amen

http://www.helium.com/items/775203-the-fruit-adam-eve-ate-was-not-a-tangible-fruit?page=2
According to this website,


In Genesis 3, the Tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and
Evil were in the center of the garden.

Revelation 22 says that The throne belongs to God and the Lamb, and the river of life flowed out from it, down the middle of the street. And on
both sides of the street had the tree of Life.

Jesus is the Tree of Life. In Rev 22, the tree was in the Throne Room of God.

Paul said that there are celestial bodies and there are terrestrial bodies.